Alternate Oscars

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This has always been a hobby of mine. Don't quite know if I should be proud or ashamed....


2002

PICTURE:
About Schmidt (Winner)
Far From Heaven
The Pianist
Punch-Drunk Love
The Two Towers

DIRECTOR:
P.T. Anderson, Punch-Drunk Love
Todd Haynes, Far From Heaven (Winner)
Peter Jackson, The Two Towers
Alexander Payne, About Schmidt
Roman Polanski, The Pianist

ACTRESS:
Nicole Kidman, The Hours
Diane Lane, Unfaithful (Winner)
Julianne Moore, Far From Heaven
Meryl Streep, The Hours
Emily Watson, Punch-Drunk Love

ACTOR:
Michael Caine, The Quiet American
Daniel Day Lewis, Gangs of New York (Winner)
Jack Nicholson, About Schmidt
Jason Patric, Narc
Cambell Scott, Rodger Dodger

SUPPORTING ACTOR:
Alan Arkin, 13 Conversations About One Thing
Ray Liotta, Narc (Winner)
Dennis Quaid, Far From Heaven
Andy Serkis, The Two Towers
Christopher Walken, Catch Me If You Can

SUPPORTING ACTRESS:
Kathy Bates, About Schmidt
Patricia Clarkson, Far From Heaven
Toni Collette, About A Boy
Julianne Moore, The Hours
Sarah Polley, The Weight of Water (Winner)

ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY:
Far From Heaven (Winner)
Narc
Punch-Drunk Love
Rodger Dodger
Talk To Her

ADAPTED SCREENPLAY:
About A Boy
About Schmidt
The Pianist
The Quiet American (Winner)
The Two Towers
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2001

PICTURE:
The Fellowship of The Ring
Ghost World
In The Bedroom
Mulholland Drive (Winner)
The Royal Tenenbaums

DIRECTOR:
Wes Anderson, The Royal Tenenbaums
Todd Field, In The Bedroom
Peter Jackson, The Fellowship of The Ring
David Lynch, Mulholland Drive (Winner)
Terry Zwigoff, Ghost World

ACTRESS:
Halle Berry, Monster's Ball
Thora Birch, Ghost World (Winner)
Nicole Kidman, The Others
Sissy Spacek, In The Bedroom
Naomi Watts, Mulholland Drive

ACTOR:
Russell Crowe, A Beautiful Mind
Gene Hackman, The Royal Tenenbaums (Winner)
Will Smith, Ali
Billy Bob Thornton, The Man Who Wasn't There
Tom Wilkinson, In The Bedroom

SUPPORTING ACTOR:
Steve Buscemi, Ghost World
Ben Kingsley, Sexy Beast (Winner)
Christopher Meloni, Wet Hot American Summer
Tony Shalhoub, The Man Who Wasn't There
Elijah Wood, The Fellowship of The Ring

SUPPORTING ACTRESS:
Illeanna Douglas, Ghost World (Winner)
Anjelica Huston, The Royal Tenenbaums
Helen Mirren, Gosford Park
Marisa Tomei, In The Bedroom
Emily Watson, Gosford Park

ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY:
Gosford Park
The Man Who Wasn't There
Mulholland Drive
The Royal Tenenbaums (Winner)
Wet Hot American Summer

ADAPTED SCREENPLAY:
A Beautiful Mind
The Fellowship of The Ring (Winner)
Ghost World
In The Bedroom
Shrek
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Post by bobster »

Be proud...I guess. I mean, I can barely remember what was released last week....
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Post by BlueChair »

I started doing one for 2000, but instead I'll just say this.

Magnolia was ROBBED that year. As was Being John Malkovich.

I find it funny how the award rarely goes to the film that gets remembered in the years to come.
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Actually, Being John Malkovich and Magnolia were both released in 1999. That was an AMAZING year for movies. Three Kings, The Insider, Election, Boys Don't Cry, The Talented Mr. Ripley, Topsy-Turvy, South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut, The Hurricane, Bowfinger, The End of The Affair......terrific movies.


2000

PICTURE:
Best In Show
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (Winner)
Nurse Betty
Traffic
Wonder Boys

DIRECTOR:
Christopher Guest, Best In Show
Curtis Hanson, Wonder Boys
Neil LaBute, Nurse Betty
Ang Lee, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (Winner)
Steven Soderbergh, Traffic

ACTRESS:
Bjork, Dancer In The Dark
Ellen Burstyn, Requiem For A Dream
Laura Linney, You Can Count On Me
Michelle Yeoh, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
Renee Zellwegger, Nurse Betty (Winner)

ACTOR:
Javier Bardem, Before Night Falls
Morgan Freeman, Nurse Betty
Tom Hanks, Cast Away
Ed Harris, Pollock (Winner)
Mark Ruffalo, You Can Count On Me

SUPPORTING ACTOR:
Willem Dafoe, Shadow of The Vampire
Benicio Del Toro, Traffic
Christopher Guest, Best In Show (Winner)
Philip Seymour Hoffman, Almost Famous
Tobey Maguire, Wonder Boys

SUPPORTING ACTRESS:
Jennifer Connelly, Requiem For A Dream (Winner)
Jennifer Coolidge, Best In Show
Marcia Gay Harden, Pollock
Frances McDormand, Almost Famous
Zhang Ziyi, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon

ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY:
Almost Famous
Best In Show (Winner)
Nurse Betty
Unbreakable
You Can Count On Me

ADAPTED SCREENPLAY:
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
Hamlet
Requiem For A Dream
Traffic
Wonder Boys (Winner)
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Post by BlueChair »

El Vez, I know Magnolia and Being John Malkovich were both released in 1999, but the Academy Awards has some layover (for example, films released in Nov/Dec are up for awards in the following calendar year, and such is the case here. Both of those films were up for awards in the 2000 show.
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No, they were both released in 1999 and were recognized that year. Tom Cruise's performance in Magnolia was nominated for Best Supporting Actor along with Michael Clarke Duncan (The Green Mile), Michael Caine (The Cider House Rules...he won and jokes that if Cruise had nabbed it, his salary would have gone down), Jude Law (The Talented Mr. Ripley) and Haley Joel Osment for The Sixth Sense. Spike Jonze was nominated for Best Director (lost to Sam Mendes for American Beauty) and Catherine Keener was nominated for supporting actress for her performance in Being John Malkovich but lost to Angelina Jolie, who won for Girl, Interrupted. Samantha Morton (Sweet & Lowdown), Toni Collette (The Sixth Sense) and Chloe Sevigny (Boys Don't Cry) rounded out the nominees.

Both Magnolia and Being John Malkovich were nominated for Original Screenplay but lost to American Beauty. P.T. Anderson and Fiona Apple both looked shocked and dismayed when Magnolia's script came up short.

Now the 1999 Academy Awards WERE held in the year 2000 just as every year's ceremony is held the following year. 2000 in 2001, 2001 in 2002, etc. Is that what you meant? If so, my apologies.
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I guess I always considered the 2000 Academy Awards to be the 2000 Academy Awards, even if the films being honoured were from 1999 (which they mostly were in 2000).
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Post by bobster »

Well, don't feel bad, BC. It's confusing to most people because you often wind up seeing the movies the same year they're honored.

This is because, typically, movies deemed likely Oscar candidates are held up until the end of the year so that they'll still be fresh in the minds of Oscar voters. Then, once a movie gets a lot of nominations, it's likely to stay in theaters well into the Spring (esp. here in L.A. and probably New York, so the Academy voters can see them all).

Often, movies will get a token "qualifying" release for just a week or so, so they can make the Oscar cut and then have their official release sometime during late winter/early spring.

All the more reason to admire El Vez's scholarship. (Don't know how he does it -- is there a place that lists every movie released in a given year? And, year, 1999 and 2000 were pretty outstanding years for movies, now that I look at those lists.)
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Here's how it works. Any film released in a a major market during a calender year is considered to be from that year. In order to give a bit of time for campaigning for the Oscar, the ceremony isn't held until somewhere around March. But every film nominated in that ceremony MUST have been first released from January 1 until Dec 31 of the previous year. So any films nominated during the awards ceremony held in March of 2000 were, in fact, 1999 films. (All, not most). And if you'll look at any of the post-Oscar releases of the DVD, the packaging will say the year the film was released, not the year the award was given. For example, Chicago won best picture last time 'round. The award was given in 2003, but the film was released in 2002. On the box it says, Academy Award Winner, Best Picture, 2002.

So, to wrap up. Anything released by Dec. 31 2003 will be eligible for an Oscar next time there is a ceremony. And ONLY films with a 2003 release date will be eligible during that year. If it came out Dec. 31, 2002, it's too late for an award.

None of the above applies to the Grammys, which operate in a completely different fashion, the secret of which is closely guarded by the Illuminati and their minions.
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noiseradio wrote:....
None of the above applies to the Grammys, which operate in a completely different fashion, the secret of which is closely guarded by the Illuminati and their minions.
does anyone know if the Illuminati are hiring? i could use another gig. all this buying of cds and dvds (movies! must buy Two Towers!) is eating into my bill-paying money. :)
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Poppet wrote:does anyone know if the Illuminati are hiring?
You must have extensive experience as a minion to the unseen and all-knowing before you can even be considered.
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Mock not the illuminati. They watch you through the eye on the dollar bill.

They got the Euro covered, too...

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noiseradio wrote:Hungup, you know too much. Run.
Me, know anything about the Illuminati? Surely you jest! I've barely even heard of the Illuminati, really. I once had a neighbour who claimed to have dated the Illuminati's cousin, but that's really the extent of my so-called knowledge. Did you hear a noise? Why is my phone making clicking sounds? Is anyone there?
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You'd think they'd be really easy to spot, being illuminated and all.
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