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AMERICAN IDIOT
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This thing was worth the $17.00
This is like the old days. It isn't exactly stolen. This is just what Rock and Roll is. Buddy Holley didn't give a shit where his hooks came from. It wasn't stolen, it was just there.
I haven't looked at the case yet. Green Day is like the Led Zepplin of Punk.
In concept, it kind of stands alone. It ain't Tommy, and it ain't The Wall. It tastes a bit like Thick as a Brick, but I don't know what else to compare it to. In the music I can hear everything from The Beatles to Social Distortion to Weezer.
What this has that most of the crap I've been hearing on the radio doesn't is real ernestness. This contains the real power and sentiment of Rock and Roll, it's truth and anger, force and rightousness. It's also all Green Day, perfect, over-produced fake British Punk of the worst disease, this time with the apparent cohesion of a poor man's opera.
I hear Queen in there, too. Loud is good. They are saying something. Study it.
>fade<
In a way, it's like Zappa's You Are What You Is, but only in a Zappa kind of way.
I mean, if you've been drinking...
This thing was worth the $17.00
This is like the old days. It isn't exactly stolen. This is just what Rock and Roll is. Buddy Holley didn't give a shit where his hooks came from. It wasn't stolen, it was just there.
I haven't looked at the case yet. Green Day is like the Led Zepplin of Punk.
In concept, it kind of stands alone. It ain't Tommy, and it ain't The Wall. It tastes a bit like Thick as a Brick, but I don't know what else to compare it to. In the music I can hear everything from The Beatles to Social Distortion to Weezer.
What this has that most of the crap I've been hearing on the radio doesn't is real ernestness. This contains the real power and sentiment of Rock and Roll, it's truth and anger, force and rightousness. It's also all Green Day, perfect, over-produced fake British Punk of the worst disease, this time with the apparent cohesion of a poor man's opera.
I hear Queen in there, too. Loud is good. They are saying something. Study it.
>fade<
In a way, it's like Zappa's You Are What You Is, but only in a Zappa kind of way.
I mean, if you've been drinking...
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Just in case anybody gives a shit what I think about this CD I just bought...
...I'm getting some Elvis on 8-track, too, but who cares?
Where's my waitress?
...I'm getting some Elvis on 8-track, too, but who cares?
Where's my waitress?
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It does seem very timely. I haven't seen the video, I haven't looked at the CD liner, but I've played it about 45 times since I put it in the player about last Wednesday. It kicks ass. The kids love it.
Loud. I blew a speaker in the back room.
It's little bits, and all a piece.
Loud. I blew a speaker in the back room.
It's little bits, and all a piece.
Never really listened to these guys before, but happenned upon this cd at my local Towers, and put on the headphones. Listened to the first half and was overwhelmed by a wall of sound which sounded like Spector going punk. This is truly a rowdy rhythm record. I couldn't tell what the heck they were saying half the time and it did not matter. Highly recommended.
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Thought it was more than a little tedious myself, but then a lot of people seem to disagree. They need to grow up and accept their age when it comes to their image, meanwhile a little more lyrical complexity wouldn't go amiss.alexv wrote:Never really listened to these guys before, but happenned upon this cd at my local Towers, and put on the headphones. Listened to the first half and was overwhelmed by a wall of sound which sounded like Spector going punk. This is truly a rowdy rhythm record. I couldn't tell what the heck they were saying half the time and it did not matter. Highly recommended.
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what a dandy surprise this record has turned out to be. i guess their career didn't really need revitalized, but this couldn't hurt. clearly they put more work into this than anything they've done. and it paid off. the engineering is superior and the rhythms and pacing are terrific. of peculiar note, they are the spittin' image of Shoes, of all people, on a song called Extraordinary Girl.
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April is the cruelest
I hear Weezer, I hear The Who, I hear The Beatles, I hear Stone Temple Pilots, I hear The Sex Pistols, I hear Styx, I hear Social Distortion. But, I don't hear April Levigne.
Becasue I couldn't pick her out of a line up of other squawking pop star rebel girls.
I sincerely doubt that Billy Joe Armstrong is influenced by the likes of April L. As to whether they need to grow up, well, no they don't.
Becasue I couldn't pick her out of a line up of other squawking pop star rebel girls.
I sincerely doubt that Billy Joe Armstrong is influenced by the likes of April L. As to whether they need to grow up, well, no they don't.
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I've only heard a few songs from the album. I like the simple "Boulevard of Broken Dreams," the solitary life described with brutal honesty. When "American Idiot" comes on the radio it has such great energy and spirit that I naturally turn up the volume. Green Day can be fun to listen to and that is no small thing, but the trick is not to listen too carefully lest disappointment and embarrassment spoil the party. Here are some lines from "Holiday":
"Seig Heil to the president gasman
Pulverize the Eiffel Towers who criticize your government
Kill all the fags that don't agree."
The Hitler reference is meant to be incendiary but fails to spark any fire or shed any light. Towers don't criticize governments. The Eiffel Tower is still standing and the French have only been pulverized rhetorically. The Twin Towers were literally pulverized but it wouldn't fit into the argument to mention that. The last line is pure hysteria with no grounding in reality, and it is ungrammatical.
"Seig Heil to the president gasman
Pulverize the Eiffel Towers who criticize your government
Kill all the fags that don't agree."
The Hitler reference is meant to be incendiary but fails to spark any fire or shed any light. Towers don't criticize governments. The Eiffel Tower is still standing and the French have only been pulverized rhetorically. The Twin Towers were literally pulverized but it wouldn't fit into the argument to mention that. The last line is pure hysteria with no grounding in reality, and it is ungrammatical.
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To both you and WHAR (who hasnt even listened to the album so cannot possibly contribute or give a view) you seem to be outnumbered here which means you are in the minority - which should tell you something.Bad Ambassador wrote:[They need to grow up and accept their age when it comes to their image.
As to the quote above BA dont tell us what we should or shouldnt like. Music is ageless - there are no restrictions as to how old you are to what you should like, thats called censorship and bigotry - not cool. Maturity gives us more experience and therefore we are more qualified to judge what WE do or do not like. I suggest you grow up a bit before you make stupid comments like that.
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I haven't heard the LP, just the singles, which are fun, but was perfectly happy to order it for my son's 12th birthday so I can check it out (except that the Jersey-based 101CD people - who, like the other Jersey people Play and Blah, offer free postage as items under £18 can be sent to the UK VAT-free, hence their cheap prices - have failed to despatch it in time. No. 1 in the album charts and they don't have it in stock?). Re the above, yes the Sieg Heil line is puerile, but I was rather taken with the Towers one. It's a rather nice metonymy for France as it implies a defence of their stature, grandeur, historical precedent, (it doesn't do to get too literal when a nice metnoymy is at play, now does it?) and it is surely an intended irony to refer to Towers being pulverized as a defence of the French's admirable anti-war stance, so yes, I do think it fits the argument well. The last line may be hysterical, but it's furthering the Nazi Germany ref, so fits the argument, rather than needing to be grounded in reality. In what way is it ungrammatical? Are you complaining about 'that'? If so, you are charged with grammar prescriptivism as well as over-literalism! The last two lines can be taken as elliptical references to what the people to whom the song is addressed (pro-Bush fascists) would like to be doing, not what they are doing. Looking forward to hearing more ...Mr. Misery wrote: "Seig Heil to the president gasman
Pulverize the Eiffel Towers who criticize your government
Kill all the fags that don't agree."
The Hitler reference is meant to be incendiary but fails to spark any fire or shed any light. Towers don't criticize governments. The Eiffel Tower is still standing and the French have only been pulverized rhetorically. The Twin Towers were literally pulverized but it wouldn't fit into the argument to mention that. The last line is pure hysteria with no grounding in reality, and it is ungrammatical.
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You're confused. He meant Green Day needs to grow up- and stop their 'punk' nonsense, and take the eye liner off. I agree with this point more with Rancid, but I see what he's saying.Gillibeanz wrote:To both you and WHAR (who hasnt even listened to the album so cannot possibly contribute or give a view) you seem to be outnumbered here which means you are in the minority - which should tell you something.Bad Ambassador wrote:[They need to grow up and accept their age when it comes to their image.
As to the quote above BA dont tell us what we should or shouldnt like. Music is ageless - there are no restrictions as to how old you are to what you should like, thats called censorship and bigotry - not cool. Maturity gives us more experience and therefore we are more qualified to judge what WE do or do not like. I suggest you grow up a bit before you make stupid comments like that.
Also, I don't care if I'm the minority on a message board of under 20 active posters. I still have an opinion and I will still share it. Not eveybody feels the same way about everything, and Green Day stinks.