Euro 2008 FFL

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Re: Euro 2008 FFL

Postby Otis Westinghouse » Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:07 pm

Nope, didn't work. I was much happier to see Italy go through. The French were awful and deserved nothing (in the first two games, didn't see it tonight). Always been keen on Holland since 1974 when I was allowed to stay at home and watch the final, aged almost 10, even though my Great Aunt was visiting and they'd all gone out for a cream tea! I was totally distraught that my hero Cruyff and co lost.
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Re: Euro 2008 FFL

Postby BlueChair » Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:38 am

I know nothing about football or the Euro Cup. All I know is that we've had a lot of people draped in all sorts of flags, parading through our neighbourhood and disrupting traffic. Yesterday it took me an extra 15 minutes to get home because of the incessant honking of car horns and shouting of crazed Italian soccer fans (my area is heavily populated by Italians and Portuguese). There were cops out to do crowd control and everything. When I stepped outside to take out the garbage at around 8:30 PM, people were still honking their horns like crazy.
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Re: Euro 2008 FFL

Postby Who Shot Sam? » Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:43 am

Just think of it as a mini-World Cup with European countries only. They have an equivalent in South America called the Copa America and we even have our own version here in North America, the Gold Cup. Given the quality of the countries involved, the European Cup is understandably very prestigious. Greece pulled a major upset by winning it four years ago, but it looks likely to revert to a traditional power this time around.
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Re: Euro 2008 FFL

Postby verbal gymnastics » Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:40 am

Who Shot Sam? wrote:Greece pulled a major upset by winning it four years ago, but it looks likely to revert to a traditional power this time around.


ie not England. :roll:

Mrs VG is out tonight so the crisps and the beer are all set up. All I need is for Baby VG to stay asleep...

So France are out. Deservedly so from having watched their matches. Thierry Henry looked out of sorts throughout the tournament didn't he?
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Re: Euro 2008 FFL

Postby Who Shot Sam? » Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:43 am

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Who Shot Sam? wrote:So France are out. Deservedly so from having watched their matches. Thierry Henry looked out of sorts throughout the tournament didn't he?


Yep. Very unimpressed by France. Domenech is really not a good manager. They should be creating more opportunities with the talent they have.
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Re: Euro 2008 FFL

Postby Otis Westinghouse » Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:51 pm

He's a knob. Cross between Martin Scorsese and Joe 90. Henry is a washed up waste of space. Good to see they didn't do much. Spain to beat Italy in next round. Spain v Holland final would be heaven.
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Re: Euro 2008 FFL

Postby Who Shot Sam? » Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:56 pm

Otis Westinghouse wrote:He's a knob. Cross between Martin Scorsese and Joe 90. Henry is a washed up waste of space. Good to see they didn't do much. Spain to beat Italy in next round. Spain v Holland final would be heaven.


He left certain players out because of their astrological signs, from what I read. He's a bit of a nutcase.
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Re: Euro 2008 FFL

Postby Otis Westinghouse » Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:47 pm

Indeed. Spain v Holland can only be semi. Predict Portugal v Croatia and Spain v Holl for semis, Portugal v Holl final. Could be a cracker.
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Re: Euro 2008 FFL

Postby invisible Pole » Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:51 pm

Looking forward to Holland - Russia quarterfinal. Russia seem to be playing better with every game, and with Arshawin back from suspension they could demolish any defence.
Will be keeping my fingers crossed for Holland, though, and the final Portugal - Holland.
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Re: Euro 2008 FFL

Postby so lacklustre » Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:16 pm

Germany predictably beat Portugal with Ronaldo a flop. I fear that Italy will beat Spain.
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Re: Euro 2008 FFL

Postby Otis Westinghouse » Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:51 pm

OK, then, Holland v Germany, perfect as a revisit of that sad '74 World Cup final, but this time with the right team winning! It was a really frustrating game this evening - some great skill and movement from the Portuguese, but a lack of penetrating the defence, way too much desperate whacking from miles out, and some weak defending and goal-keeping. I expected more. Germany using their height advantage, as expected. At least we don't have to suffer Oliver Kahn, but they have their fair share of revolting players, especially Schweinsteiger (doesn't that translate as 'pigmounter'?), and of course Ballack. Anyone hear the interviewer where he said 'We are Germans. We can rise to the big occasion' or words to that effect. Simao and Deco were both impressive, Ronaldo only very occasionally, Quaresma should have played, and maybe bring on Postiga sooner.
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Re: Euro 2008 FFL

Postby Who Shot Sam? » Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:23 pm

Otis Westinghouse wrote:OK, then, Holland v Germany, perfect as a revisit of that sad '74 World Cup final, but this time with the right team winning! It was a really frustrating game this evening - some great skill and movement from the Portuguese, but a lack of penetrating the defence, way too much desperate whacking from miles out, and some weak defending and goal-keeping. I expected more. Germany using their height advantage, as expected. At least we don't have to suffer Oliver Kahn, but they have their fair share of revolting players, especially Schweinsteiger (doesn't that translate as 'pigmounter'?), and of course Ballack. Anyone hear the interviewer where he said 'We are Germans. We can rise to the big occasion' or words to that effect. Simao and Deco were both impressive, Ronaldo only very occasionally, Quaresma should have played, and maybe bring on Postiga sooner.


Simao was impressive!? What game were you watching? I agree about Deco. He had a fine tournament. Portugal got burned by Germany's superior height, some poor defending from Ferreira and comedy goalkeeping by Ricardo. Ballack had another strong game. You may hate the guy, but he is a born leader and has been in tremendous form since he came back from injury.
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Re: Euro 2008 FFL

Postby Otis Westinghouse » Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:49 pm

Yeah sure, but Big Phil is gonna leave him on the bench from now on!!!

Deco much more significant than Simao, who was quieter, but he showed some class moves, and was involved in the goal build up. Carvalho was also significantly at fault - they showed afterwards how with the Klose goal he was correctly positioned to stop the goal but moved across away from his man when it was played in.
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Re: Euro 2008 FFL

Postby so lacklustre » Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:29 am

I thought Bosingwa looked fairly useful going forward.
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Re: Euro 2008 FFL

Postby invisible Pole » Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:07 pm

Yep, Bosingwa could be a very good buy for Chelsea. (not cheap, though)
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Re: Euro 2008 FFL

Postby invisible Pole » Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:47 pm

Unbelievable! Turkey have mastered the art of coming back to the game at the very last minute and scoring in extra time. Actually in this case it was extra time of the extra time, which made it even more difficult to swallow for Croatians.
With three Turkish players suspended, however, Germany seem like a sure finalist now.
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Re: Euro 2008 FFL

Postby Otis Westinghouse » Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:56 am

Agreed - Boswingwa looks handy, fast and a good crosser.

Am almost relieved I was out and didn't watch the Turkey game live, but the timing of that goal was astonishing. I feel for Bilic, he's done well. Apparently Croatia had prepared for penalties and Turkey not!
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Re: Euro 2008 FFL

Postby verbal gymnastics » Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:49 am

I'm so pleased Italy are out.

And justice was served for the cynical playacting of De Natale.

I was actually sitting in my front room willing him to miss his penalty.
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Re: Euro 2008 FFL

Postby invisible Pole » Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:39 am

VG, all three sentences are spot on. :D

De Natale rolling back on the pitch to stop the game was just pathetic.
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Re: Euro 2008 FFL

Postby BlueChair » Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:17 am

A lot of disappointed Italy fans in my area yesterday afternoon. Though they were good sports as Spanish fans drove or marched by, waving their flags.
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Re: Euro 2008 FFL

Postby Otis Westinghouse » Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:13 pm

Absolutely re willing De Natale (or 'Natalie' as they were calling him!) to miss, served the tosser right. Way too much cynical fouling/trying to get free kicks from the Italians, worst offenders in the tournament for that. It was a long slog, but so glad they got there. An Austrian work contact today told me he could get me a ticket for Thursday if I wanted it. Hideous temptation! Can't afford the time away, can't be splashing the cash with a family hol to save for... If he hadn't been in Cambridge last week, I could have got away with the pretext of needing a meeting. Trying not to think about it.

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Re: Euro 2008 FFL

Postby verbal gymnastics » Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:34 am

I'm sure it wasn't just us willing De Natale to miss. Seems like we all did a good job though.

Otis - what a difficult decision to have to make. I hope your wife forgives you when you come back. Not that I'm trying to sway you or anything!

And anyway, there'll be other years for holidays :lol:

Since baby VG has started sleeping through the night Mrs VG is doing her utmost to catch up with the nights she missed going out :roll: On the plus side it has meant that I am getting to watch loads of football. She wants to go out Thursday and Sunday nights. And do you know what - I'm not going to argue!!!
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Re: Euro 2008 FFL

Postby Fishfinger king » Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:26 pm

invisible Pole wrote: With three Turkish players suspended, however, Germany seem like a sure finalist now.


Oh, right; that was easy!!!
Lucky Germany (though they did have a certain penalty turned down - the ref was awful)

PS Otis - have you given up on the Euro fantasy league??
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Re: Euro 2008 FFL

Postby verbal gymnastics » Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:33 pm

What a great game.

I hope the other semi is as good.
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Re: Euro 2008 FFL

Postby Who Shot Sam? » Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:27 pm

Fishfinger king wrote:
invisible Pole wrote: With three Turkish players suspended, however, Germany seem like a sure finalist now.


Oh, right; that was easy!!!
Lucky Germany (though they did have a certain penalty turned down - the ref was awful)

PS Otis - have you given up on the Euro fantasy league??


Other than the penalty I thought the ref was quite good. Of course, the last 20 minutes or so were a mess with the satellite signal going out. Lahm was very fortunate to score the inning goal, because he was otherwise awful - burned over and over again by the Turks.'

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